by
Pick1
@ 2008-06-01 - 14:21:26
The Independent today published Robert Fisk’s subtle, nuanced, balanced and considered views on the CIA report, which I wrote about yesterday.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fisk/robert-fisk-so-alqaidas-defeated-eh-go-tell-it-to-the-marines-837843.html
Basically it involved him invoking the thousands of dead, (killed by Al Qaeda), lots of completely irrelevant points, something about the Crusades and the belief that if people of different religions dare to help each other a permanent state of global war must necessarily exist. I assume Mr Fisk pasued to flog himself briefly, (to expunge the sins of the west that seem to bear down on his shoulders) and then returned with the earth shattering news that there is still a conflict in Palestine. Mr Fisk then ended by crticising the West for bringing freedom to Iraq and also for not bringing freedom to Saudi Arabia. He decried the existence of a “new iron curtain”, (it starts in Greenland apparently) and then expressed the hope that the West and the East will have nothing to do with each other. Please excuse the sloppiness of this essay, it wasn’t worth spending more than twenty minutes demolishing his, ahem, argument. Below are some of his well considered points.
Six thousand dead in Afghanistan, tens of thousands dead in Iraq, a suicide bombing a day in Mesopotamia, the highest level of suicides ever in the US military – the Arab press wisely ran this story head to head with Hayden's boasts – and permanent US bases in Iraq after 31 December. And we've won?
Al Qaeda is loosing precisely because Muslims are disgusted at the murder of their brothers and sisters by Al Qaeda thugs. Levels of violence in Iraq are at the lowest level for four years. Al Qaeda will always be able detonate a bomb, yet their strategic aims have been emphatically blocked in Iraq; even if they continue to murder. The US Army, although under severe strain, is a functioning professional army. Discipline and morale in Vietnam completely broke down, contributing to America’s defeat. By contrast today’s troops are generally high in moral, well motivated and often toughened combat veterans.
Less than two years ago, we had an equally insane assessment of the war when General Peter Pace, the weird (and now mercifully retired) chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said of the American war in Iraq that "we are not winning but we are not losing". At which point, George Bush's Defence Secretary, Robert Gates, said he agreed with Pace that "we are not winning but we are not losing".
What other people said two years ago is frankly an irrelavance. It is perfectly possible to neither be winning or loosing; it’s often called ‘stalemate’. See World War One for details.
Am I alone in finding this stuff infantile to the point of madness? As long as there is injustice in the Middle East, al-Qa'ida will win. As long as we have 22 times as many Western forces in the Muslim world as we did at the time of the Crusades – my calculations are pretty accurate – we are going to be at war with Muslims. The hell-disaster of the Middle East is now spread across Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza, even Lebanon. And we are winning?
Nobody denies there is injustice for many in the Middle East, but to suppose that all Arabs will as a result support a genocidal terrorist maniac is immensley condescending and patronising. Many leading religious scholars have recently attacked Al Qaeda for the bloodshed it has caused and opinion polls consistently show that Al Qaeda has lost its once high levels of support. How, exactly, will Al Qaeda win anything by blowing up innocent Muslims anyway? America did not exist during the Crusades and I’m not sure there is anyone alive that can be blamed for things that happened during the Middle Ages. Why will we always be at war with Muslims if Western troops are on Muslim lands? Are non-Muslims not allowed in Muslim lands? Is that not racist? Should non-Muslim tourists be banned from Muslim lands also? Should Muslim peacekeepers take the US Army's place? Would they be Sunni or Shia? Who would provide them Saudi or Iran? What about Muslim American soldiers? Why divide the world along religioous lines? We are all human beings – I don’t really care what religion a soldier may be – he is still human. “The hell-disaster of the Middle East is now spread across Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza, even Lebanon.” What does that sentence even mean? What has it got to do with the CIA’s report?
Yes, we've bought ourselves some time in Iraq by paying half of the insurgents to fight for us and to murder their al-Qa'ida cousins. Yes, we are continuing to prop up Saudi Arabia's head-chopping and torture-practising regime – no problem there, I suppose, after our enthusiasm for "water-boarding" – but this does not mean that al-Qa'ida is defeated.
Iraqi Sunnis turned to the U.S. for help, not vice versa. Mr Fisk seems to be calling for regime change in Saudi Arabia, yet he criticises regime change in Iraq and Afghanistan. Waterboarding has been used exactly twice and I don’t think there was anyone that relished its use. Nor does that fact have any relavance to the state of Al Qaeda.
Because al-Qa'ida is a way of thinking, not an army. It feeds on pain and fear and cruelty – our cruelty and oppression – and as long as we continue to dominate the Muslim world with our Apache helicopters and our tanks and our Humvees and our artillery and bombs and our "friendly" dictators, so will al-Qa'ida continue.
American troops occupy precisely two Muslim countries, and they are protecting their inhabitants. Bin Laden became radicalised in the 1980s, I believe Mr Fisk needs to investigate Islamism a little more deeply.
Take the story that came out of Gaza this week. Eight Palestinian students won grants from the Fulbright scholarship programme to study in the United States. You'd think, wouldn't you, that it was in the interest of America to bring these young Muslim people to the land of the free. But no. Israel won't let them leave Gaza. It's all part of the "war on terror" which Israel claims it is fighting alongside America. So the US State Department has cancelled the scholarships. No, it's not worth turning yourself into an al-Qa'ida suicide bomber for such a nonsense. But it would be difficult to find anything meaner, pettier, more vicious than this in yesterday's papers.
The US sponsored eight West Bank students instead. How many Palestinians have attacked America recently? Nobody at the CIA denies that there are many difficult issues; but that does not mean that right thinking Arabs will necessarily beome Al Qaeda fanatics. To suggest that suicide bombing is the only form of protest is arrogant, condescending and patronising. The evidence suggests that although Arabs are unhappy with the status quo many are now disgusted by the atrocities carried out by Al Qaeda.
Are we going to bomb Iran? Is this what we are waiting for now? Or is it to be another proxy Iranian-American war in Lebanon, fought out by Hizbollah and the Israelis? And does Mike believe al-Qa'ida is in Iran?
How is the above relevant?
And as long as we have stretched this iron curtain across the Middle East, we will be at war and al-Qa'ida will be at war with us. This new iron curtain, by the way, starts up in Greenland and stretches down through Britain and Germany, through Bosnia and Greece to Turkey. What is it for? What's on the other side? Russia. China. India.
These are questions we do not ask; certainly they're not the kind of questions that The Washington Post would dare to put to Mike and his chums at the CIA. Yes, we huff and we puff about democracy and freedom and human rights, though we give little enough of them to the Muslim world. For the kind of freedom they want – the kind of freedom that allows outfits like al-Qa'ida to flourish – is freedom from "us". And this, I fear, we do not intend to give them.
Mike Hayman [sic] may think the Muslim world is "pushing back" al-Qa'ida's "form of Islam", but I doubt it. Indeed, I rather suspect al-Qa'ida is growing stronger.
I’m not sure what Russia, China and India have to do with Al Qaeda. Mr Fisk advocates giving Arabs freedom from “us”. That sounds like global apartheid and, dare I say it?, a “new iron curtain”. Mr Fisk calls on the West to promote freedom and democracy, yet he does not want us to promote it in Iraq or Afghanistan and criticises the west for getting rid of dictatorships in those two countries. The West is promoting demcoracy in Turkey, Lebanon, Yemen, Kuwait, Qatar and Indonesia. Many in the West passionately want freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia and to suggest otherwise is disingenous in the extreme.
Mike says they're defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But are they defeated in London? And Bali? And in New York and Washington?
Er, what does that even mean? Does he belive that those atrocities represent ‘victories’ for Al Qaeda?
Mike Hayden emphasised that the struggle against Al Qaeda would be long and hard and any gains were fragile and reversable. Nobody has claimed anything close to a total victory over Al Qaeda and nobody denies that the problems facing the Middle East are multiple and varied. Mr Fisk comes dangerously close to glorifying Al Qaeda in that last sentence. I know that Mr Fisk favours extreme cultural masochism in his writings but to glorify the massacre of innocents is surely a new low, even by his wretched standards.